This is the estimate for remediation of the 12th and Main property.
This is the proposal for the work
This link is the Gibson & Stattel website.
Welcome to The Belmar Blog
This is the estimate for remediation of the 12th and Main property.
This is the proposal for the work
This link is the Gibson & Stattel website.
Ok, not too bad, only 70k. Just about what was needed to keep the old BFA afloat. But at least that corner will be cleaned up (no one else was bidding on the property anyway).
Let’s hope they don’t find any surprises.
I think you misread. It’s more than $70 thousand
Seems more like $235,000.00 in total?
#3 … Godfather … what does the Family charge for tipping fees?
#4. It’s not $$.
(Deleted by Editor.) Is it just happenchance that, after shutting down the BFA institute, the BEST location in town that Walsifer and EK can find to build a new first aide building on is on top of a polluted piece of property, which just so happens to be owned by the family of the wife of the BA, EK? And by chance this contract was signed by the BA on 12/27/22, days before losing power. So the owner(s) of the property in question happens to be in the family of the wife of the BA for more than 50 years. It has been the site of an auto repair/gas station for who knows how long and had been assigned a pollution designation since 1987. Apparently the owner(s) have, either by neglect, accident or just plain ignorance allowed this site to remain un-mitigated for a long time. By skirting the law an owner could excessively profit by failing to dispose of waste oil in a manner prescribed by law. By refusing to insure a property known to be polluted an owner could also profit excessively. So now taxpayers, local, state and federal will reward this owner by taking it off his hands and relieving him or her of a liability. There is something seriously wrong with this scenario and perhaps (Deleted by Editor.).
If you go to YouTube and search, “Mayor and Council Meeting: February 15, 2022”, I ask at the 2min 45sec mark, “…if they (the sellers) are gonna clean it up, or will The Borough get stuck with the tab?”
To which former Mayor Walsifer responds, “I’m glad you brought that up because in the contract we’re gonna be signing says whatever needs to be done down there lies solely on the buyer.” Right away he corrects himself, “I mean on the seller… whoops!” Then everyone has a laugh and he goes on to say, “All the costs are to the seller and if there comes a point in time that we don’t think that it can be environmentally cleaned, we walk away and they have to owe us whatever money that goes out.”
I followed up with, “That’s previous to when the deal goes down?” He then said, “That’s all previous to before it goes down. We’re fully aware of that.”
Then advance the video to the 38min45sec mark and watch him flounder some more, in two successive questions by two dedicated citizens who are now new council members. 😉
Oops,I guess I did read it wrong. $235k and we allowed an escrow of $300k? Not a lot of room for error. And large remediation projects always have unforeseen problems.
Will we the taxpayers be on the hook? Or does the company have insurance to cover the overage?
Hopefully this will be better step forward, when the old fas refused to give the council financial records that is a huge red flag.
Remember, 12th and Main is 11,400sq ft which is much less than 2 lots(15,000sq ft). The purchase price of $1.2 million was way over market value for a contaminated site. The $300,000 in escrow to be used for the site clean up is in reality the Boro paying for the clean up. It’s like the money was ‘laundered’through the seller. The only positive was that it was maybe the only location available to relocate a Public Safety Building on Main St.
#9 “A Voter 2”
Stop with the false narrative!
The Belmar First Aid’s books as well as the financial books from local firehouses NEVER leave their buildings.
The Belmar First Aid invited the administration to send over anyone they wanted to peruse these logs during normal working hours and the administration insisted they were “special” and above the law as they did in most of their endeavors with BFA and wanted to “borrow the records and return them later”. They knew they would of course be refused as would The Governor if he tried the same. They used this just as you have to cast doubt on their credibility as an organization.
Keep telling the same lies over and over and maybe they’ll finally believe you. LOL Or just tell the truth but leave out the reason why and that may work too. Not while I’m here though. 😉
Whoops…
All the financial statements are on their web page and have been for a long time. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
#9
We can blame the Belmar first aid for this incredibly bad decision.
#12 Yes. For many things brought up on the Blog and other places, the information is sitting on the internet for everyone to see.
Especially the First Bookkeeping.
Belmar First Aid Website
https://belmarfirstaid.com/
#10 what’s possibly worse is that the borough (Please provide documentation of this, Editor.
#11 Mr. McEvoy
Just curious since you seem to have all the answers to everything and know everything. Why were you not asked to be on a Board or put your resources to good use in a position running something?
#14 Editor isn’t it funny how many of these statements are made before the author looks anything up, I mean sometimes it’s as easy as a google search. I laugh at that all the time when reading certain posts by people thinking to myself it’s not a hidden answer lol
So #9 and #11 were BOTH mistaken. It’s a wash.
This is not something we can blame on the BFA. (Deleted by Editor.) We the taxpayer, as usual, have to foot the bill for (Deleted by Editor.).
They never learn and we never learn. Although the election was a step in the right direction. So far
#16- Joe McEnoy has my vote on ANY board he wishes to be placed on.
#10- How bout thinking out-side the box? Knock down the dilapidated library at 10th and E to be replaced by a new Public Safety/First Aid bldg. Put the library in the place where the Police Dept. now occupies to include an Arts theater and community center. Hence no need for an oil enriched polluted liability at 12th and Main. Or just join the County Library system and save all kinds of money.
I think the borough asking to see why the first aid needed more money was legitimate. Why would anyone responsible for taxpayer money not want to understand the need before agreeing. The borough took on insurance costs.
Just a lame attempt to deflect away from the facts.The purchase of this property (Deleted by Editor.). Take it to court and have the sale voided. Inappropriate at best. we were bamboozled.
I posted these documents because people seemed to want information about how the remediation was being handled.
I did not mean to start arguments.
#18 you’re *** **** ******. Isn’t the library in a residential zone? Didn’t the citizens file a petition not to have an emergency service building in a residential zone because it would be too disruptive?
(Asterisks are mine, Editor.)
19
It’s all there on the website. Where are you going?
#16 “Curious”
To be honest, the Belmar Democrats don’t like me much either. That’s fine by me as we were taken for twelve years, not simply four as many partisans will argue.
As far as my resources, I have no desire to work for any government organization at any level ever again. Also, once again you’re trying to single me out. Remember, I’m an administrator for a Facebook Group made up exclusively of residents of the area and the reason I know so much is that I’ve worked tirelessly for them for years and have solved their problems, gained their trust, and receive daily information from many of them, including those close to the present and past administrations and from both sides of the aisle.
Unlike yourself, they realize that folks made their decisions on the last election not from the info we can Google on The ‘Net, but from the confidential information we’ve provided that explains the truth as to why no deal was EVER going to be made between Belmar First Aid and The Walsifer Administration. Most of that The Editor won’t allow here but you’re welcome to “catch me outside” sometime and I’ll spell it all out for you as we did before the election.
I’m sure the election results were shocking to most suffering from partisan psychoses but when you bully, threaten, and make politics personal with people as the last administration did, you create a climate where even those seemingly close to you will tell you what you want to hear out of fear. Meanwhile even some hardcore GOPers were telling me long before voting how Kirschenbaum was either leaving by himself or with the bunch. You see the funny thing is the answer was hidden, as they were telling him, “You’re doing a great job! Of course we’re gonna reelect your people!” Meanwhile the inevitable sweep was coming and no one saw it, well… I did. Because they trusted me enough to tell me. I know so much because I’m simply the messenger for those in the know. 😉
#18
I don’t know who you are, but if you indeed have a vote. I appreciate you speaking out on my behalf. Thank you! I’ve lost only a few friends over the past year because of the election, but gained so, so many more.
To 19,
You are a fountain of misinformation. What insurance costs?
Joe makes some people nervous because He tells the truth. I enjoy reading all of his posts. Keep it coming Joe!!
#22 the answer to your question is no, I believe. There was a petition circulated but it was about having a referendum about the town using eminent domain to force the sale of the property to the town. I don’t recall anything in it about a residential neighborhood.
I was under the impression that the Belmar library has some historical significance in that it was a prototype Carnegie library (the first of its kind built). Then that design was replicated across the country. IS that correct?
27
The petition was to put the eminent domain issue on the ballot. That scared the walsifer administration so they backed off.
Belmar’s intention was to build a huge fire dept. Complex at 9th &D. There was a deed restriction preventing a bigger footprint than what was already there.
There was discussion about razing the library after we saw the amount of damage inflicted by hurricane Sandy.
#29 yes correct. I was just explaining that to #22, who seemed to think the petition was for not having it in a residential zone.
#30 If the Doherty admin had its way they would’ve razed every public building in town after Sandy. We had to deal with another super storm of public building contracts (Deleted by Editor.). That storm we’re still paying for.
#6 Excellent summation. Anyone who voted for that admin, or defends the decision to choose that property for the new BFA- read number 6’s comment. What they did is indefensible. It’s Doherty type stuff and we have to stop allowing it.
#28 … no registered historic sites in Belmar … the nearest is in Ocean Grove.
#28 and #34 Mr. Creamer
The Bradley Beach Public Library is on the list of The National Register of Historic Places. Their train station is as well, and part of Wall Township’s Camp Evans site is too.
There are also a few sites in Spring Lake closer, but I don’t see their bank building on Third Avenue on the list although I do remember seeing an article in The Coast Star saying they began the process of getting it listed for preservation just a couple weeks after Belmar demolished the old bank building at Main Street and 9th Avenue. They apparently were motivated after seeing ours in rubble.
#35 … Correct! … Camp Evans (Infoage.org) is probably nearest Belmar’s subaqueous municipal boundary
The Bradley Beach Library and Camp Evans are both nearer than Ocean Grove. To both our subaqueous boundary and the regular old dry one.